Monday, December 04, 2006

I put this argument to you, please debate it in a dignified manner.

Pie > Cake.

12 Comments:

At 11:54 AM, Blogger the flu said...

How dare you!
Cake > pie*

fools

 
At 12:30 AM, Blogger shaun said...

Ok so that got me thinking....
Pie vs Cake....

Round One : Coolest uses in a sentence

Cake : When being told that peasants didn't even have bread to eat - she said, "Let them eat cake"
Pie : Ohh, South Park : Now get into the kitchen and make me a Pie, Bitch!"
Decision: Pie - Callous arrogance/ignorance/indifference from French Royalty will always lose out to the cool cache that a quick retort from South Park carries

Round Two: Flavour
Well of course its all subjective.... but generally, pies are fruit based.... while cakes are generally and most famously chocolate based, in fact, a chocoholic's preferred medium I'd suggest
Decision : Tie - To each his own I guess

Round Three : Flexibility/variability of ingredients

Cake: Who hasn't enjoyed a delicious chocolate Zucchini Cake?
Pie: Well, you could add meat, and make tortiere, or, you could add lots of pecans and brown sugar, and make basically a pie sized pecan tart - and of course - you can't forget the Key Lime!

Decision : Pie!!! Have Crust, add fillings! Savoury, Sweet - and really - could you add meat to a cake? Burger Cake? Chicken Pot Pound Cake? I don't think so....

Round Four : Quality of Mass Produced Varities

Cake : Betty Crocker, Duncan Heinz - synonymous with easy to use, reliable, and quick tasty cake
Pie : Canned Fillings are a great shortcut, and frozen preformed pastry shells are a time saver, greatly reducing the labour aspect, and trickier aspects of pie making (ie - the filling being too loose and runny, or the dough being difficult to roll out/shape)

Decision : Cake! C'mon, while pumpkin pies will never be easiar without canned and spiced pumpkin, and the stackable shells are just a product designer's dream, you cannot tell me that a fake pie is going to taste very much like a from 'scratch' pie - usually - you can tell they are fake, or worse, storebought shit which is pasty and has no flavour! With Pastry tasting like deep fryer grease! And, really, try comparing that to those tasty boxed cake mixes, which really are convenient, and produce somewhat comparable results

Round Five : Most Famous

Cake : Wedding, Genies, Pound, Angel Food, Devil's Food, Chocolate, double chocolate, Marble...
Pie: Key Lime, Pecan, Sweet Potato, Chicken Pot, Cherry, Blueberry, APPLE, Pumpkin,

Decision : Well, Cake! Really, Being a Pegger, I grew up with the Genies, synonymous with Sunday dinners, family gatherings, and birthdays. And really any medium by which you can legitimately multiply the incorporations of chocolate, without sounding tacky - I mean Death by Chocolate - there ain't no pie that can do that!

Final Tally After Five Rounds....
Cake -> Two and a half
Pie-> Two and a half

!

Well, after reviewing the contested Round (Round Two), I thought about it, and decided that the strength of the pie's flavour lies mainly in it's filling - the crust is important - but really, that is just a foil for the filling.... With Cake, well, do you separate the cake itself from the icing? You can't very well have pie with just crust, the filling is a certified component... But with cake, well, the icing or frosting is really an add-on - I mean you have the examples of Angelfood cake, or pound cake, or even coffeecake, which has a lot of flavour found within the cake batter itself - but that's just it - a cake can really only generally stand up to pie when it is dressed up with Icing, the basic, naked cake won't hack it...
Decision after Tie Breaker :
PIE > Cake!

 
At 12:48 AM, Blogger the flu said...

Your multiple points are NOT VALID, for the simple reason that you misspelled Jeannie's Bakery.

Idiot.

Pie without crust is jam.
Thus pie is jam on some weird toast.

Cake without icing is still cake.

Cake is the sum of all its parts, which can be many, thus giving you more options.

Apple pie is ovverated.
Cake is historical fact ("let them eat cake")
and a lovely Mccain's advert.

Therefore:
CAKE > pie
(QED)

 
At 2:02 AM, Blogger Christopher Batty said...

You guys are dorks. Also, Lister is just trying to be provocative. Don't fall victim to his ploys.

 
At 2:01 PM, Blogger Christopher Batty said...

And besides, you haven't even really defined what the operator ">" means in this context. Is it defined on the infinite set of all desserts? All food items? All words? Is it transitive? What attributes does it measure? Size? Colour? Flavour? Letter count? Feces content?
Is it even possible to define such a relation when each element is in turn an infinite set of instances of the relevant dessert category?

Dammit people, let's have some scientific rigour in this dialogue, shall we?

 
At 8:22 PM, Blogger Bro said...

What about this, pie filled with cakemix?

 
At 8:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or what about this, a cake filled with little tiny, miniture pies.

Like a black forest cake, only instead of cherries, it has these little pies in it! Little Cherry Pies!

 
At 8:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

^

Wonderful idea, old chap! Absoultly wonderful! That Cake Pie treat would really hit the spot after a nice cup of earl grey tea, I do say.

 
At 8:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I retract my previous statment.

Togetherness > Cake or Pie seperate.

They are stronger, united in one confection.

 
At 9:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Flu and his multiple blogger accounts disgusts me.

 
At 9:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who in this so-called "Usual Crew" is a spy for Mr. Slugworth?

WHO?

I demand to know!

I have been working on a Cake Pie treat for 20 years and now one of you has stolen it.

Just wait until you get a cute little song and my midgits come for you, REAL ORANGE midgits, not the weak ass Johnny Deep Indian one. They will set you straight.

 
At 10:40 PM, Blogger aGirl said...

I admit that I rarely contribute, but I just need to say that it's these kinds of debates that keep me coming back.... pie filled cakes...best idea ever. Also, 13 comments for one (fairly odd) post, I just wanted to be cool and jump on the bandwagon.

 

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